Episode 17

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Published on:

29th May 2024

Catfish

In this episode...

In this slightly unusual and unexpected episode of "Afraid to Ask,” Jamie and his less jealous half answer an unscreened call where a woman insists she’s been having a relationship with Jamie. 

 

Chapters

00:00 - Jamie’s Other Woman Calls In 

03:37 - Fake Jamie’s Are Everywhere

05:30 - Craziest Question Ever From A Fan

06:40 - Fake Jamie Proposes To A Fan & Asks For Money 

07:30 - Scammers Preying On Loneliness 

10:00 - NAME DROP ALERT: David Spade

10:40 - Fake Jamie Is A Puss Hound

12:46 - How To Find Out If Someone Is Fake Or Not Online 

14:45 - Making Things Right 

15:45 - Craziest Catfish Story Ever 

22:50 - Erika Online Dates

28:00 - Relationship Types

30:10 - Tall, Dark & Educated 

34:00 - Stumbling Onto Happiness 

38:10 - Get In The Damn Arena And Be Terrified

39:30 - Criticism 

40:40 - Random Listener Question 

 

About the Podcast

Comedian Jamie Lissow and his smarter half Dr. Erika answer all kinds of medical, dating, sex, divorce, questions some might be afraid to ask. Listen & subscribe for prescriptions and punchlines.

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This is an uncensored podcast that will include adult language and topics. Viewer discretion is advised.

Transcript
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check 1 2 well hello there boyfriend

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how are you this fine day

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I'm really good is it working

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yes excellent

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let's not touch shit

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I'm afraid to ask but I have a great question

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I don't even know what I was gonna say

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I'm so disturbed right now

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so

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I think we just keep going

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are you cool with that fine

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because I don't think we can

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okay I did not know that was gonna play that

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are you being serious

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yeah and um

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we cut this part no

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there's a there's another one oh

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from the same number

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okay

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well bring it on Jamie

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I think we have to discuss this for real

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you do you think you don't think anything

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I'm doing anything do you

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okay cause I would like to hold on

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this is from the same person

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Erica

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what do you think about man

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it tells you he loves you every day

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but refuses to see you

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because he says his divorce is not final yet

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but then he found out that he's seen someone else

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behind your back and calling them his better half

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what's your opinion

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okay I think that message was before this one

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someone I've been talking to for over a year

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tells me that he's Jamie

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he tells me he loves me and he wants to marry me

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but then I see this one time

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that you're supposed to be his

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smarter half

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due to have a relationship

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um I'm gonna let you take the lead with this one

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alright so you know what's weird what

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this look so

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this makes me feel bad obviously

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and that sounds real

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it doesn't sound like a bit right

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so this is a problem that I run into

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unfortunately they're both anonymous

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so it's not like I could

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I could reply back to this person

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but maybe I could do like on Twitter

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but is that where it came from

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yeah it was Twitter

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it was speak pipe on Twitter or Twitter link

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now what's funny not funny is I um

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if I was married right now

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if you were

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I don't think there's any part of you that thinks

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I did anything wrong do you

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no I was just giving you a hard time

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so like if there if I there are

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I swear like my last relationship

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this is like a huge like who is that

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whatever I think you can already tell like

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oh something weird is happening right

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and so what happens is sometimes from the Gutfeld show

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there will be some like

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it's mostly kind of some older women

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and um I said that politely

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just like a little bit older than me

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I'm older than you I don't say I don't no shade

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I do get these messages that are a little bit like

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I told you that one of them right

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where I would did a joke on Gutfeld and I said

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I just don't want the punchline was

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I just don't wanna die alone

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it was something about

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would you date someone in a different political party

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I remember the joke

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maybe I can make you laugh on this one

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go 1 for four

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it said will someone from

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would you date someone from a different party

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you know and I said um

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I'm so desperate

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I would date someone from the Donner party

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oh boy

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I just wanna I just don't wanna die alone

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that's where those people that date each other

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on the airplane so that's a pretty good joke

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um

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in that night I got a bunch of messages from women

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they took it like

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kind of to heart that I said I don't wanna die alone

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and I was just joking I was single at the time

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but that wasn't a real concern of mine

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it was just a joke and then that weekend I had

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was performing at a theater opening for Rob Schneider

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and a woman came to the um

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show and they said this

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this woman has offered $300 to meet you

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to just say hi to you for like two minutes

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and I was like oh

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she doesn't need to give me any money

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I'll go say hi I don't need the money

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and I went out I talked to her

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and she said

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she heard me say that and thought maybe it was like

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a sign and she had driven there and got in a hotel

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room and thought we could stay together and then um

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I felt really bad I only charged her 2:50

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and um but no I felt bad and then me and her

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she still follows me sometimes

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and everything's like totally cool

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like I see her sometimes on the on the socials

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so I got like figured out

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but then what I'm getting at is I think there

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that might have been a bad example

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cause I think what I'm getting is there are fake

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me's out there like

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there are scammers that pretend to be me

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and then ask for money there's a lot of fake use

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I have to sometimes double check on social

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when I'm going on there if I'm trying to tag you

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fake you pops up before real you pops up

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and thank God I know the difference now

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but I have to be careful

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I had a lady at one of your shows

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ask me if your account was real on Facebook

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because she wrote something and didn't hear back

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and I was like oh

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well that's just because so many people follow him

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and she pulled up her phone was like

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is this the real one and are you real

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and I was like well I yeah

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yes ma'am I'm talking with you right

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she was super sweet yeah

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but she said that and it kind of caught me off guard

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and I was like oh yeah

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that's his right account I was looking at it

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I think people just don't know social media is so fake

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it's hard to come through what's real and what's not

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and then you say

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you're a divorced loser who doesn't get laid right

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well honey

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do you know that

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someone last weekend came up to me and said

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is that really you like on TV

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you say you're a divorced loser who never gets later

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is that like a character

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and I go sir if I could choose any character haha

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do you think

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those would be the attributes that I would select

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but yes I think part of this is my fault

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but these are these are fake accounts

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and I also think some of my like fans

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and I'm putting like my mom and stuff into this

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people that aren't like super familiar with technology

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something wrong with it would

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they just weren't exposed to when they were younger

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maybe they hear from me

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like a direct message and they go oh

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I'm saying this because we had

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I had one woman

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my manager called me once and said this

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this person started a relationship with somebody

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they sent like this person goes

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there's no way you're really Jamie

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they sent a license

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we had a copy of like a fake license

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and Alaska license with my picture

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and not the best photo job right

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what's it called Photoshop job

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but pretty legit

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and then he asked her for money and said he wanted to

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get married to her and now what really

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really upsets me about that is this is

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this is we've all been fucking lonely

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we've all been looking for something

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to get us out of a thing and honestly

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when I heard this at first I kind of thought oh

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this is a funny someone's doing a bit or like whatever

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and then when I heard that again at the end

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where she's almost like crying

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this woman

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this is a woman that's like legitimately hurting

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and think she's talking to me

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and I don't know what to do about it

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because I've posted about it

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I have social media people that go on these I

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I'm gonna go ahead and say

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I put these people that scam my

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my fans are any fans older people looking for love

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especially with a love element

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scum of the fucking earth

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I don't know what's worse than that

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I mean I put that up with like

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some of the worst shit you could possibly do

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like I wish I could get a hold of this one

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I'm sitting here trying to brainstorm like

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is there a way we could just go like yeah

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that's fake and send or something

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or maybe I can spend one night with her is how

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say how much social media like we see that in like oh

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that's fake that's fake that's fake yeah

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we all get duped to a certain extent

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I've been scammed by stuff or you know

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like it's almost like

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what's your threshold

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knowing that all social media has filters

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and fakeness to it what's real

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what's not and yeah

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when we first like announced that we were dating

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there were a lot of people that were like

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congratulations and of course

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there are few that were like

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yeah right right

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and there were a couple they're like

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does she even exist like

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is she a real person is that just like a thing

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yeah I ask myself that every day and I'm like

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there she is again right next to me

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I didn't call this like that

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I don't know social media is dangerous path

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I don't have anything funny to say about it

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I actually hate social media

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but I find it as a venue that you kind of

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can't live without sometimes

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and when you can live without it

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fucking awesome

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so I have a producer

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uh listening to our podcast

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and he says that he found this woman

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and so he says he found her on Twitter

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so I'm not gonna say her name

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but he's got a Twitter handle

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um and maybe

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I don't know that's probably a DM situation right

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I think the nicest thing is to reach out and say hey

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what account are you using

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cause this is the real one right

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and he wasn't talking to you

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and also it's

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I remember talking to David Spade about this

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I've been trying to find a way

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to work his name into this pocket somehow and drop it

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here it comes

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I was talking to David Spade about this and I said like

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what do you do about these fake accounts

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it gets overwhelming and I feel bad

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and he said I thought you were to say that

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you professed your love to David Spade

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and he said he would marry you back on social

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and then you found out it was a fake account

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and it crushed your spirits

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yeah it wasn't even him

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not even a cool yeah

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make sure it's verified yeah

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it was fucking Rob Schneider

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I'll tell you to be Davis fade

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um

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Schneider fucking with me

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he uh haha

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he said it's so many that you can't like

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it becomes like overwhelming

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and there's like not much you can do

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cause I used to go like if I see one I'll block it

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I'll even say that the people go like

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is this you and I go

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should you do me a favor

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could you block it and report it

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but it's become a full time job

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they pop up every day and um man

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I really feel bad did I tell you my mom

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who's a Catholic older woman

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with all friends of the same friend of hers

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was like I don't know how to tell you this

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but I've been talking to your son on Facebook

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my mom's friend

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were you flirting with your mom's friend on Facebook

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but not you

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I was not I was not fake Jamie is a puss hound

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excuse me fake Jamie

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I heard that part

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I don't need to hear that what's a puss hound

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someone that wants a lot of puss

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regardless of if there's a

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there's it has a gray a puss hound yeah

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fake Jamie's out there trying to get

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he's fucking that's way actually stop it

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you just made it even grosser

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he's not trying to get his duet

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he's trying to get his bank account fatter

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that's right that's right

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he's trying to get all up in that bank account

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you're right it's all about money

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so what I think I would like to do plushound

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have you ever never heard that phrase before

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you said my mom older women Catholic women puss hound

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yeah I did you did

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I don't know that I've ever said puss hound before well

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I've never heard it before

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and now I'm not gonna get rid of it

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I don't know if this clears things up

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but pussy short for pussy

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and I mean did you know that

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you knew that I'm sorry Erica okay

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I do wanna say something

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and I don't think this is that nice

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but I'm gonna say it okay

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the only part that weirds me out about the story

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about your mom's friend

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is that she came to her later and was like

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this is weird

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is this like

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somebody who legitimately thought she was going behind

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your mom's back and flirting with her son

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I I

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I didn't ask too many questions

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so that is gross but yeah

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I believe that's that's gross to me

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and I'd looked I took a look at her profile picture

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cause if she said like anything there

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you know no

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I meant like if you know

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it's weird that you're a lot older

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absolutely

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and then you like circumvent it and you're like

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ah and it

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and then you're like yeah

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should I have done this

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if you approach something that way

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you know the answer is no

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I agree with you but I think yeah and also

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I don't know how to say this delicately

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but there let me put it this way

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there are ways to find out if someone's real or not

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online and verification No. 1 Twitter

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maybe not but verify

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everybody's verified there should be

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that's what I'm saying though

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I am but all my social media

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a lot of famous people aren't

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so people who maybe aren't tech savvy

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would just see an account

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be like oh

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they wouldn't know to go look for like

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10 accounts with your name on it

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and look for the one that's verified

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if you go to my official account

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I am posthound you will find a verification

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how would they know it's your official site

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because it says I've been

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says my name and it has all my

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there's 10 that say your name

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but if you look it's got more posts

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it's been

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this is where I have to get a little bit deeper

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it's been it's been an account for 20 years

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you're saying it's my mom or my aunt

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I'm saying

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for people who don't understand tech that well

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it's very easy to fake them out

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yeah oh

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I feel for these people I don't think it's their fault

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and what I would like to do

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I was gonna ask you what you thought I should do

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but I was thinking stop saying puss hound reach out

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that's all you have to do

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do you think reach out

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is there a female version of plus songs

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or like a dick dog yeah

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I don't know TikTok is very good

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I for just

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I thought you're gonna go with like Cocker Doodle

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I like that right here's my question

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Doctor Pecker poodle yeah

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thanks fuck yeah

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I like that um

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we can't continue

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because we're both trying to think of dogs

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and dogs in our

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I was trying to think of like a like a Chef Bernard

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something like that furry fellas

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I'm too fucking tired to come up anymore

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but my question is

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I feel like I don't know what I can do

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but I would like Sharpay oh

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very good thank you

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very good I know it's not funny anymore

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but that's all I'm thinking about yeah

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I know it's fucking so annoying

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but can I be serious for one minute and um

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do you know when I was a kid I had addiction

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should have quit laws ahead

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do you think we could give this woman something like

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I don't know I mean

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I can't keep no

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no he think just cut it off and we

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we just clear it up

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we reach out to her on social media

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I think we uh

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we said it straight you and I are sarcastic

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and make fun of stuff all the time

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but I think when you see like a sensitive subject

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and you don't make fun of it

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that's the best thing that you can do

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don't make fun of these people you already defended

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you think I am no

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I feel like you've already done enough by defending her

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I give her a gift like a nice gift

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no you've already defended her

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and other people who get duped by asshole scammers

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scammers online and I think that's all you need to do

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I think you'd be a dick if you're like

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look at this loser who can't tell the difference

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those people are mean

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I don't feel like let's make fun of the mean people

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I think you did enough would you like to hear yeah

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the yeah great

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Jesus would like to the craziest catfish story ever

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but it's not from TV

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it's from like a personal friend of mine

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is it the personal friend

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you know you catfish someone

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have you ever catfish someone

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do you know there was

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a time that I love you so much

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that I got worried that when you showed up

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it wasn't gonna be you

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cause I thought you think I was a catfish

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I saw you you met me face to face

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the first time we ever met was face to face

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I'm not very smart I was still suspicious

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I thought

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what if somebody steps in has taken over your identity

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just like this this person seen me face to face

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but it's not really oh

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so on my like in my DMS

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maybe it was someone fake who was like

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I love you Jamie and you're like yeah

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the real girl yeah

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she wasn't there

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cause remember I would try to test you sometimes

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be like you look so sexy

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holding up today's app copy of the newspaper

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what's the date

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what do you look like

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there's a minute where I was worried

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are you being serious though

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no but you were worried you hold up a newspaper no

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no not that part

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but I mean are you being serious

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that you thought for one second I was fake

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I don't I'm having a vulnerability issue right now

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cause I know the guys are gonna be like

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God shut up Jake

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I thought hate that you're too good to be true oh

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and then there were some moments where I was like

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fuck is this I might be in fucking vanilla skied

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did I pay money for this future

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and it's just inserted in my brain

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and some crazy bitch drove me off of

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off a fucking bridge

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do you know that movie no

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this crazy drives him off a bridge yeah

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actually you just looked at me and said crazy bitch

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yeah then he wakes up and his life is amazing

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because he paid for some service

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that's like an implant in his brain

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for his life to be perfect

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that's kind of a roundabout romantic way to say

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sometimes I wonder if that happened okay

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but you quickly you know

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I Facetime with you and I that's what you do right

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you face not quickly

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not that quickly but this

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if this woman saying we're getting married

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insist that this motherfucker Facetime with you

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wow I mean that's extreme

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not facetiming yeah

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thinking you're getting married and not even like

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meeting the person yeah

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it's too bad but I feel really bad

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this is a true story

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a friend of mine was dating a girl

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and she was very attractive

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she was actually a model

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and she was a model for Victoria's Secret

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so

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she was an attractive girl by all objective standards

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and

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her mom went online in search of a man

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and her mom was as old as a mom of 30 years older

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and um was did not have the body of a model

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let's say the face of a model

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she was a mom and when she was fucking mean

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she was her I don't mean anything

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I don't know that did sound shitty

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I just mean she was like well

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you're a dad from now on when you have an insecurity

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like it's okay he's like that cause he's a dad

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that's a good excuse fucking sucks at life cause dad uh

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done in 15 seconds

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I'm a dad maybe we can Jamie

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so he's a Jamie

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this woman's uploading all her profile stuff right

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how old am I what do I like to do

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she's making a profile

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and then she's about to upload a picture

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and she thinks you know

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will probably work better my daughter's picture no

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she actually do that

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so she uploads her daughter's picture

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her daughter's a model yeah

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so she starts talking with is this real

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hundred percent real I

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we could talk to her

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I could call her right now and she'd answer who

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well the daughter the daughter

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my friend's girlfriend and um

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so they she meets a guy

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many guys are after her

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but one in particular she really really connects with

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right

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they talk for six months yeah

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they're saying it's time to meet

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it's time to meet but now keep in mind

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this woman did she also listen

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her age was accurate though age

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weight height of the daughter

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what statistics of the daughter with the picture

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why would you do that this is her mom

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no so the guy says

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I think it's time we meet

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now keep in mind she got a fake picture up

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fake profile yeah

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it's not her what does she say

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what excuse does she make up to not meet him

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I'm married it's a trick question

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she doesn't she goes

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come on over fuck that

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so this man was living in South Carolina

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and she was living in Florida

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and he said I'm gonna leave now

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it's like a whatever hour drive

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and I will see you in like

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you know whatever

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20 hours and she goes

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I'll see you then no

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now I'm not trying to be really

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I'm not trying to be rude

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but he drove from South Carolina to Florida

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I'm not trying to be an asshole here

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but if you saw a picture of the actual woman

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you shouldn't drive

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from South Carolina to North Carolina

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of the model of the mom but he didn't

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he saw a picture of the model

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that's what I'm saying but I'm saying like

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this poor guy is driving all the way there

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if it was the mom oh

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you shouldn't drive even between Caroline

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sorry you tried to be funny

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I missed that one that's okay

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so he drives there

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he's pulling up she's in the house

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imagine this no

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she's think

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I know this because this has been talked about

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she's thinking to herself

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he likes me so much from my conversation

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oh no

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this is not gonna be a big deal

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we're in love looks aren't that important

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he loves me from a lie

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that started from the get go though

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rings the doorbell

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she opens the door and he's like

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ah right

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is your is your is I'm not gonna say the name

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but is uh is Samantha home

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please come in I am I am Samantha fuck can you imagine

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how quickly his erection fuck away

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do you know this guy's driving there thinking like

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I'm gonna have sex with this woman

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and a life with this woman

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he's so in love

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he thinks he's been telling his friends about her

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he gets there

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it's not her it's an older woman

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looks nothing like her

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there are a few responses a man could have right

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anger

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fuck you you tricked me that's what I would do yeah

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that's what I would do

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this man who was a who was a Marine

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that was his career

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he walks and he goes oh wow shit

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they sit down and he goes what is what's going on

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and she goes that with I I just have to come clean

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I thought I'd come clean with you

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after you drove 20 hours

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and that's my daughter's picture

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but I love you

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and I still wanna see if we can work it out

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he

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stays overnight what because he's a nice man

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and he talks to her and he says

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I think

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you might have to get a little bit of help here

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this is kind of nutty you like broke my fucking heart

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and there can never be anything between us

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but I I want you to know this is not okay

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and it's like a mental someone's like a mental illness

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how could you do that to me

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but they talk all night

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and he ends up kind of forgiving her wow

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what a nice guy

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the next morning he drives back to South Carolina

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and sends a message to

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her daughter and says

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how does he send a message to the daughter

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Facebook oh

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because I'm in love with you oh fuck

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I've been talking

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I thought I was talking to you for this long

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and your mom did this thing

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but it's you I want you

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it's your picture like we have to meet whatever

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and it's my friend's girlfriend shit

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isn't that a crazy catfish

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you know what that's so crazy

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that fucking crazy because he sounded normal and like

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okay he got hurt and yeah

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and then he leaves but then you realize he's like

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he's also fucked up

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cause none of the conversation matters

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cause he matches so much to the picture

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he only liked the picture

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he only liked the picture yeah

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somebody told me that they did holy shit

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what do you think I don't know if I wanna ask this shit

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I got asked a few times if I was catfishing people

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when I all night dated

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oh cool yeah

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I did it

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I'd love to talk about way before you in med school

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I did because you're hot I think you're hot

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I mean I think you're hot

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I just didn't want you to have to say yes

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because I'm hot

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you mean because as far as online dating go

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if I saw your picture I would certainly be like

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what's up bot

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I got that yeah

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I'm not I'm not a bot

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I'm not a fucking model but I got that

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and I was like we're back for batteries

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the first night we were together oh

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you did get that

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I put more in your dick to make it better what

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God I don't wanna ask any of this

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but I'm going to

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because that's what the people would want

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what the fuck Erica

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you're online dating you go on

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you wake up in the morning

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and you have a message from every man on the app

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they've gotten their friends to sign up

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you have just all these messages

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and how do you not meet a man on an app

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you must have you did yeah

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we might have talked about one of these dates

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on this podcast I kind of got catfished

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do we talk we talked about the guy that um

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said he liked coffee

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and pretended he knew about Madison

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do you consider that a catfish

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well he had all these pictures up of him

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that were over 10 years old

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where he was in shape and when I met him

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and he had like a long lot of hair and he said

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he drove a really nice like expensive type of car

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and when he showed up he was very overweight

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bald and had like a car that was that brand

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but like 40 years old not a classic okay

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he could just been himself and tried

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all of it was like that and when we talked he was like

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oh I hurt my leg so I couldn't really exercise

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but I motivated to get back

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I'm like three like what did he say

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like I'm like 20 push UPS away from my six pack

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no

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I feel really bad about something

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I was going to tell you something real quick

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what I may have done something terrible as far as like

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to me no

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it was on a dating profile

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oh

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I had a picture of my penis next to a quarter

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but it was a tiny novelty quarter

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so so it made my penis look like you know

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wow please continue

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you are online dating wow

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what you must just be getting inundated with men

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wanting dates

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right

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what do you do not a lot of go through them

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did you find a lot of not a lot

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it's not a lot out there right

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isn't online dating a lot

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like going to the grocery store late at night

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all the fucking shelves are empty the boxes are open

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well I thought online dating was where losers went

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and I had a really hard time signing up because well

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this is like when this was early days

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E Harmony yeah

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plenty of fish e harmony and match

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com as on both cause you know

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I thought only some guys be on one not the other

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and then you realize

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everyone has the same profile on both

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cause we all are desperate

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and we're all doing the same thing right

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things like Uber and left

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I got both yeah

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well okay

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so I judged but I was on there

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so I felt like a loser to be on there

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like everyone's judging while they're on there

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you can't get a date but you have to be on there

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I had a very hard time dating

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because I was in medical school

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so I had not very much time at all

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I never went out um

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like in med school

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because what I just was thinking that

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such a great point you had

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please don't lose your thought

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you had a great point about that

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you're like all only losers on these apps

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but then we're on the app as well

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it's just kind of funny that you're right

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like people think that but we're all

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I was embarrassed cause I called myself out like okay

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I'm a loser too cause I'm on it

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like when I was like in high school

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and I go to blockbuster

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and I look around on a Friday night and be like fuck

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I hope nobody cool sees me

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I'm here with my dad getting a movie

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and then I was like wait a minute

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you're a fuck you're fucking doing it too

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I saw

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I was at like a porn shop once where they have like um

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dirty videos and this guy was like masturbating

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I was like what a pervert and I was like

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you know what

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it's my fucking hand dude like we're all in this

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do you know what I mean this isn't just him

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um

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you're in med school

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how I'm just saying pictures up there med school

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every guy's not a lot of takers

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I mean you didn't take a lot of the men

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you didn't want to see a lot of them

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I have a very specific type

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so I just narrowed it down to what I wanted

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and then I went from there

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no I will not

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fucking ask what that type is well you know what though

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what I thought I needed is what I didn't need

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like I always dated the same kind of person

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and when I was attracted

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I feel sometimes we like what's not good for us

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you know like our type might be incorrect

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my type was like I need this

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this this

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this and this

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and I would get all of it on paper and then in person

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I was like without saying what this

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this is and this is how many of the this is

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do I have none of them

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the previous this is without even saying what they are

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I'm trying to think what they were

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cause it was a long time ago yeah

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I remember you told me I know

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I know I know couple I wasn't gonna say them all

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you want me to say them all

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no I wouldn't say them but maybe just like

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just cause I feel it wasn't like a

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you can if you want to I was trying to

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had to be above 6 feet tall from having such

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had to be above 6 feet tall

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checked over one

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had to have a master's degree PhD or doctorate over 4

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and had to have dark hair 1 4 6

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those were my 3

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what about say was he gonna hurt my feelings

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no no

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no my other one and this one uh

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this was like the secondary one

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those are like my 3 like okay

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you have to have tall dark and handsome tall

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dark and educated tall dark and educated okay

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yeah educated was No. 1

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actually I deviated from that

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as long as the education was No. 1

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the second one was like I preferred certain um

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like features or like religions or something like

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I didn't want someone who was like

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very different than my belief system

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but it was like a generalized

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you know we can't release this episode

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because you're just gonna

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get inundated with people that are taller

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darker and more educated than me darker haired

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well I mean

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that's just what I gravitated towards

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but the problem is I didn't know myself

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and I didn't know what was so important to me

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I still find intelligence to be

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the most important factor

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by far

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and what I've told you before is dating you was like

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oh he's just this nice guy that we met

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like we're friends there's nothing serious

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you weren't threatening

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so our relationship built for me

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thinking we were just friends

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and then I found out how smart you were and I was like

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holy shit

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that's right nice

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and it like it snuck up on me like

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cause I wasn't looking

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but then like I thought that I needed all these things

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and the recipe that I was asking for was

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someone very narcissistic

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and self involved and just an asshole

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and I always picked the same type

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there's I never Learned

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I love that I feel the same way

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I had a type and friends of mine

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would say

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fucking stop this dude

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like this type you're gravitating towards

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17 years old 364 days

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I think they say pounds

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and you call her the next morning

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17 is illegal I just said seventeen

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oh 364 days and you call her the morning

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I get it I get it

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no but okay

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maybe there was a little bit

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I was just maybe there were younger girls

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maybe they were party girls

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20 year age got brown hair

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uh huh yeah

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what else give me your whole list

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well no

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that was the whole list it was your match com list

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I didn't have a list I just was like

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you don't have a list no

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I just who do you have any preferences

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I mean I would say like

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what did you click if you had to click all the boxes

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what was it

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I wouldn't ask I would be clever about it like um

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I kind of wanted someone fit

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that wasn't super overweight

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you can't say that so I would be like oh

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I have my my house is really narrow doorway oh my gosh

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you gotta be able to fit through

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without turning to the side no

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you can't on those

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you can put the type of athletic body that you have

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remember

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so one of them was athletic body or one was like yeah

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fluffy one was curvy one was slender

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I just checked bring it bring it

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I think I'm gonna put like I got no matches by the way

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but I put a I I I'm more saying my type in retrospect

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so like if I look at my type

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and I look at the girls I've dated

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they all kind of have brown hair

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they were all younger than me

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they all like to party none of them had careers oh

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so it was like

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I was sort of this guy that could come in and

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and go and they go

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while we get to go to this restaurant or we get to

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go to there was like that element of it

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and I had a lot of friends who said like with this

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that doesn't seem that great for you my friend

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and then um

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sometimes

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your type is just a habit of person that you're with

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not I wonder why though I think cause it's us

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maybe a safe thing or something you feel comfort

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I don't know but yours is different than mine

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hmm or because we have these narratives

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we walk into it with well

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I wanted like a ton of success

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like I wanted a very confident man

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sorry about that

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but that often came with just complete egotistical

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behavioral patterns that were quite repulsive yeah

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but I kept going back to it

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because I found maybe a lack of education unattractive

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we share an attribute I think is kind of interesting

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I think a lot of people have

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one of my favorite attributes people have

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and it is this um

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I wanna be super successful

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I wanna sell out shows

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I wanna like make more money and less time

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but none of it I mean

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none of it has to do with any superficial reasons

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of being famous or walking to the airport

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and people it 100% has to do with seeing my kids more

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seeing my girlfriend more

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living a little bit more alive

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cause I'm sure people understand

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like traveling all over the places

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it's a tough it's a bit of a tough life if I could

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if I could

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perform for everybody in one night at a theater

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you know

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then instead of doing like a whole week at a club

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I get to be home more that's my only

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it's my only I don't have any of those other type

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like I feel like we both have our priorities are legit

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but we are absolutely we wake up wanting more

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and wanting to achieve more and work harder

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I think that it's interesting that

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you and I both struck out on a multitude of trial

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and complete errors

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and then when we weren't attempting to find a partner

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we found each other

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and I truly I'm not trying to say that as like sappy

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like fuck off but not you don't fuck off please

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you're cool but like

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don't you think that's interesting

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how a lot of love stories

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when you ask people like how did you meet

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they're like oh

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what a bar a blind date

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whatever or

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or online dating

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or I was looking for this kind of person

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my friend set me up cause this is what I liked

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but with us it was like totally opposite

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it was like I'm not looking

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and you're not necessarily

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who I would always gravitate towards

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I'm not an underage blond who's drunk

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I have I'm sorry

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brunette who's drunk I almost got all three

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I have a strange belief that I'm just gonna say

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I have a strange belief that I truly believe

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and I think that well tiny bit of scientific backing

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there's a book called Stumbling Onto Happiness

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one of my favorite books

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and one of my favorite premises of the book is that

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he says we're not good at knowing what future us wants

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we're just not even when you go

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I'm gonna order that pizza

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your mind pictures you eating the pizza

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and you're like fuck it

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you don't need to decide what you're gonna eat

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you go through the processes of like

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I'm eating a popsicle I'm eating ice cream

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I'm gonna go with the ice cream

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you run through it in your head

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like a like someone's training for the Olympics

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you do like a fake little movie in your head

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we try the popsicle and you eat the ice cream

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and so we're not good at knowing what future us wants

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and so I sincerely believe that in life

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whether it's with love or careers or anything

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the very best way for it to happen

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and almost the way it always works out

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is when you are not desperately searching something

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and you find it

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so the premise of the book is that well

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that's just a little part of the book

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but that like we don't know what Future Us wants

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we're not good at predicting

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you're not good at predicting that Future Erica

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you thought

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Future Erica wanted a guy with all those degrees

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that was really tall you were wrong

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future Erica wanted a short comedian with a um

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associates degree no

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I actually have a bachelor degree

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but we're not great at knowing it

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predicting our future happiness so what's the

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solution point

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what is the solution

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I've should that's quite interesting

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like

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that's depressing if it's just like we suck at knowing

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good luck everyone I'm gonna be honest

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I wish I could remember you're all doomed

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wish I remember the end of it

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but it makes me think

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I'll give you one thing

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like when I met you and made me think oh

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maybe me in the past is not that good at predicting

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and maybe giving a little more thought

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and I think that's why

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sometimes when we fall into things

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when I'm looking for a job

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I can never get a job when I'm like

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I lost my writing job and I'm like

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I'm going to network yeah

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and right on this show I never did

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and then I did Gutfeld and came in

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I did Real Rob on Netflix and thought

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this will change everything

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and it changed a couple things

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and I knew Gutfeld and then like

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but the way I wanted it to work was do a Netflix show

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sell more tickets become it's not worth it all

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I just ended up doing it kind of like

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I didn't know it would be in politics

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or beyond Fox News

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or I didn't know this is the way it would be

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it would be for me but I like the fact that it was

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I never went in thinking I wanna make money from this

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I wanna sell tickets from this

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I went in thinking I wanna help my be on my friend show

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maybe help him and maybe get some laughs

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you know I think

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it's really interesting about how

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we always make the safe choices right

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Brine Brown talked about something like that

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where you're in the arena edit too well

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what is that look for I love that lady

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so she talked about the arena and how like

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if you wanna make stuff happen

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and you're comfortable

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just sitting in an arena and watching

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nothing's gonna happen

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you have to be the fucking gladiator

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that's fucking scared shitless

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that's in the faces of everybody else

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that makes those tough decisions

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that nobody else wants to

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or you're never gonna get the spotlight

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you're never gonna get the glory

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you're never gonna get what you want

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so if you're too scared to fucking do it fine

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you're gonna take the safe route

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your life's gonna make my do you know why

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but

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you have to be fucking terrified to make those choices

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that take those exceptional people and propel them

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otherwise you're just another spectator

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do you know the first 20 years of my comedy career

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actually the tickets to the arena

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they were fake this guy's only fake ones

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I couldn't even watch

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those are my career

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I love that Bernay thing about the arena and

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and I also think that I think that a lot

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when I do take some things personally online

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I do get my feelings hurt sometimes

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like in the last episode for a second

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I got my feelings hurt someone said

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I was with you for health insurance or something and um

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I think you in the

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that's the only place you're gonna get

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couldn't I be hurt then because you were dating me

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to use me for health insurance

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either of us but you know why

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this is an arena a podcast is an arena

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any spectator can yell shit at you well

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that's part of the yeah I was gonna say

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I think

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we're opening ourselves up to a lot of criticism

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because it's so easy

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and enjoyable for people to knock other people down

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online with nobody knowing who they are

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and we're putting ourselves out there yeah

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maybe when I'm feeling super confident someday huh

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I will read to you your dating profile page oh haha

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it's probably still up I'll read you James 10 um

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searching for barely legal no

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no definitely legal

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I said barely legal but can't run a car

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can't run a car can't vote legal but can't buy beer

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oh no I still say can't vote can't vote is good too

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we'll teach you

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I'm gonna play one more audio we have to go oh

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but um should I play one more random one

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and we'll get out of here

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we'll do a quick answer

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I have no idea what this is about should I do it

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if it's a long one

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we do it next time if it's a short one

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we do it right now okay

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as always is afraid to ask

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and you can do so many questions on Speak Pipe

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which Erica doesn't love the name of Speak Pipe

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I think it's great I think it just invokes

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exactly what it sounds like all like pipe is a dick

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what else would it fucking be

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I don't know I thought it was like um

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I'm picturing this really long pipe and I'm at one end

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and I'm like okay

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you just did it you just did it

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you just did it you just came into a pipe

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no holy shit I don't like any of this you did it

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you know what I just naturally

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naturally

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grabbed that pipe and put it right to your mouth

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as a producer

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I just thought to myself there's nothing romantic

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I did that because we're both doing blow job motions

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I go what's he gonna cut to

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I'm holding no I was picturing you know

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one of those pipes

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where it goes on the side of a building

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sometimes they have my playgrounds and you're like

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hey Erica I'm over on this side

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I'm I'm talking to the speak pipe

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what does your other hand do

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is it right here no

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there's this not

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is it like that you could cut to me on that

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is that what it is let's do live directing

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no reason to cup the balls on

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by the way

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if you wanna see Erica coming balls

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that's only available on YouTube cause there's no video

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there's no video you're really missing out

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I would say every other episode Erica does a

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it's almost like he went to blowjob MIME school

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I wow

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you're very good I mean

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honestly sometimes I go right goes that

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is she cheating on me with the invisible man

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cause that is fucking looks real through the motion

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so many times it just becomes habit

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holy shit

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haha

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love to end upset

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um ah

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let's listen Jamie

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oh to a thing

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how about how about if it's a really um

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like in like in if it's really

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this is where my brains not working

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just if it's very involved

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we'll do it next time if it's quick

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we'll just play that fucker

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hello guys um

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so one question

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which one of you made the first move

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was it Jamie or was it you Erica

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also by the way Jamie

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I'm from Sweden by the way

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you

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you really brighten my days with Gutfeld appearances

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so thank you so much for that and take care of yourself

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that's really nice I think that's it

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that's nice I like that one

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before he even complimented me

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I was like this guy's voice fucking rolls

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I like yeah

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I like that guy

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what you think who made the first move

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no he sounded way better than that

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that's nice you sound creepy

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well we'll answer that real quick then

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I would say

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I would say it depends yep

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because

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Erica surprised me

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some of you may know that from listening

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that is showing Denver

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after we've been talking for a really long time

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damn though actually

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no matter what the question is

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I think the answer is you

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I walked out of the theater and found you

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and talked to you first but I mean

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all the very first time we laid our eyes on each other

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I saw you first performing

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but I walked out

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and I'm the one who decided to walk up to your table

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and say hi

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but I think it's all of them

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and then I asked you to create your TikTok account

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so we could communicate

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cause we didn't exchange numbers that night

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that's right and we created an account

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I filmed the video and put on my page

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not your page

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and then I slid into your motherfucking DMS first

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but as a friend

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yeah as a friend yeah

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but just to say hi yeah

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and then for me you are real life friend

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imaginary sex partner

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I didn't know you were pervert from day 1

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I was just being your friend from day 1

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but whatever

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and then yes

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you're right I was gonna say that if you go

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I'm I'm not proud of this

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but if you go first kiss everything

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it's you well yeah

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I give you credit though for when we were just friends

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yeah cause I didn't start stuff like

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I started stuff as like a hi

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nice to meet you not even interested stuff

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so I don't think that counts

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I just started the relationship

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but it was a platonic relationship

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I think you're the one who kept reaching out online

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when I was single and finally said

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are you interested yep

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in a way for me to realize okay

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I could reach out

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do you know what I think was the hardest thing for us

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when you what when you shut up and find out

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I wasn't 6 3 with a master's degree

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like I told you online

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no

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did not Catfish Eric made the first move is the answer

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next time I'm afraid to ask

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I grabbed your shirt and pulled you in

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for that first kiss I know

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what do you think that's good

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I needed it I wouldn't have fucking done it

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I barely made the second move

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you're still not making moves

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I barely made the second move to this day okay

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on that note this is afraid to ask

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we make a move hey

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if they want to

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if one of the questions speak pipe on Twitter

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I'm gonna make a move

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coming up on the next episode of afraid to ask

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would you like a question about a PSA test

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to be honest with you I don't know what that is

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or would you like a question about uh hernia

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like a public service announcement

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is that what it means I don't know what's the question

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I think it's not it's probably having to do with a man

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okay so this is from let's see

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this is from Randy Stockdale 3

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0 7 2 by the way I'm

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I love the first 3,071 Randy Stockdale's

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this one's great they're all great hey DOC

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how often should a guy get a PSA test

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what do the resulting numbers on the test actually mean

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thanks

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why did you do it Lee how often

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I thought I thought Randy would be like hey DOC

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how often did a guy get a PSA test

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Randy

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Randy to me feels like guy goes he likes barbecue

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I like him that's an appropriate question

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he phrase it in a kind way

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he wasn't mean he wasn't condescending

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and it's a very valid thing to wanna ask your doctor

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I chose this question so because it was the only time

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I'm not shooting okay that's not true

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About the Podcast

Afraid to Ask
Prescriptions from the Doctor. Punchlines from the Comedian.
Comedian Jamie Lissow and his smarter half Dr. Erika answer all kinds of medical, dating, sex, divorce, questions some might be afraid to ask. Listen & subscribe for prescriptions and punchlines.

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Jamie Lissow

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Actor and comedian Jamie Lissow is currently a regular weekly guest on the #1 rated late night talk show, Gutfeld! on Fox. Jamie is best known for his starring role in two seasons of the Netflix Original Series “Real Rob”, alongside SNL alums Rob Schneider, Adam Sandler, Norm MacDonald and David Spade; a show Jamie co-wrote and co-produced.

Jamie has appeared on The Tonight Show, The Late Late Show, Last Comic Standing, has his own half hour Comedy Central special and a Dry Bar Comedy Special with over 20 Million views. Jamie recently wrapped his first movie, Daddy Daughter Trip, where he appears alongside John Cleese, Rob Schneider, and Micheal Bublé - a movie he co-wrote and produced.

Jamie is currently working on the feature film, The Animal 2, for Fox/Tubi and continues to headline comedy clubs across the country.

Erika Aragona

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Dr. Erika, DO, is a board-certified Family Medicine physician who focuses on Women's Health and Wellness. Her clinical practice is almost exclusively female-based, and she regularly educates on contraception, hormone replacement therapy, libido and sexual health. She is an associate professor at Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine, where she lectures on Women's Health, and she serves as a physician expert consultant and writer for several female-based health and wellness companies.